experience of units / heroes
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experience of units / heroes
found (finaly) yesterday a good website were its very nice described how the exp and the game constants work!
so i decide to share it with you guys, here is what you get from which unit/hero:
3.04f:
units:
(s) = units you have alrdy at start
(b) = additional units you buy at the tavern
also increased the experience you get by killing heroes:
heroes:
formula:
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 12 + 200 = exp
lvl11: 810 x 1 + 11 x 12 + 200 = 1142
lvl12: 1142 x 1 + 12 x 12 + 200 = 1486
lvl13: 1486 x 1 + 13 x 12 + 200 = 1842
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
for more information check out: http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68382
so i decide to share it with you guys, here is what you get from which unit/hero:
3.04f:
units:
footy(s) | 79 | |
archer(s) | 79 | |
knight(s) | 175 | |
archer(b) | 40 | |
knight(b) | 106 | |
sorceress(b) | 57 | |
motar(b) | 57 | |
gryphon(b) | 373 |
(b) = additional units you buy at the tavern
also increased the experience you get by killing heroes:
heroes:
1 | 100 | |
2 | 120 | |
3 | 160 | |
4 | 220 | |
5 | 290 | |
6 | 370 | |
7 | 480 | |
8 | 580 | |
9 | 690 | |
10 | 810 | |
11 | 1142 | |
12 | 1486 | |
13 | 1842 | |
14 | 2210 | |
15 | 2590 | |
16 | 2982 | |
17 | 3386 |
formula:
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 12 + 200 = exp
lvl11: 810 x 1 + 11 x 12 + 200 = 1142
lvl12: 1142 x 1 + 12 x 12 + 200 = 1486
lvl13: 1486 x 1 + 13 x 12 + 200 = 1842
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
for more information check out: http://www.thehelper.net/forums/showthread.php?t=68382
Last edited by Ace Ventura on 2012-08-19, 12:22; edited 9 times in total (Reason for editing : updated the exp-tables)
Re: experience of units / heroes
Nice. I think increasing the exp from killing knights that you recruit would be good. because it will stop the whole tauren / knight mass, plus it's a piss take taking them down.
Stridar- Forum Emperor
- Location : Hueco Mundo
Posts : 777
Re: experience of units / heroes
Thx the exp tables. Very informative.
But.... from the heroes exp fromula it would look like:
at beginning of the table u sent the formula doesnt fit...
But this way they will worth way too much exp.
Perhaps try : (prev) + (lvl) x 5 + 40
So the table will go like:
I agree with Stridar with more exp for recruited knights.
But.... from the heroes exp fromula it would look like:
lvl 1 | 100 |
lvl 2 | 220 |
lvl 3 | 350 |
lvl 4 | 490 |
lvl 5 | 640 |
lvl 6 | 800 |
lvl 7 | 970 |
lvl 8 | 1150 |
so on.... |
But this way they will worth way too much exp.
Perhaps try : (prev) + (lvl) x 5 + 40
So the table will go like:
1 | 100 |
2 | 150 |
3 | 205 |
4 | 265 |
5 | 330 |
6 | 400 |
7 | 475 |
8 | 555 |
9 | 640 |
10 | 730 |
I agree with Stridar with more exp for recruited knights.
XioNiDaS- Tinker
- Age : 37
Location : Hungary
Posts : 197
Re: experience of units / heroes
I think knight(b) should be higher exp they're a pain in the ass to kill early on.
Besides i think that's the whole point that hero killing should gain more exp.
Besides i think that's the whole point that hero killing should gain more exp.
Cain- Admin
- Age : 37
Location : Norway
Posts : 1819
Re: experience of units / heroes
changed the experience you get from units and heroes, it was too much...
units:
new:
before:
(s) = units you have alrdy at start
(b) = additional units you buy at the tavern
heroes:
new:
before:
ps: updated the first post of this thread.
units:
new:
footy(s) | 96 | |
archer(s) | 96 | |
knight(s) | 165 | |
footy(b) | 40 | |
archer(b) | 40 | |
knight(b) | 69 | |
sorceress(b) | 40 | |
motar(b) | 40 | |
gryphon(b) | 363 |
before:
footy(s) | 140 | |
archer(s) | 140 | |
knight(s) | 225 | |
footy(b) | 40 | |
archer(b) | 40 | |
knight(b) | 40 | |
sorceress(b) | 40 | |
motar(b) | 40 | |
gryphon(b) | 330 |
(s) = units you have alrdy at start
(b) = additional units you buy at the tavern
heroes:
new:
1 | 100 | |
2 | 120 | |
3 | 150 | |
4 | 190 | |
5 | 250 | |
6 | 320 | |
7 | 400 | |
8 | 490 | |
9 | 590 | |
10 | 700 | |
11 | 835 | |
12 | 975 | |
13 | 1120 | |
14 | 1270 | |
15 | 1425 | |
16 | 1585 | |
17 | 1750 |
before:
lvl | exp | |
1 | 100 | |
2 | 120 | |
3 | 135 | |
4 | 160 | |
5 | 190 | |
6 | 220 | |
7 | 260 | |
8 | 300 | |
9 | 490 | |
10 | 690 | |
11 | 900 | |
12 | 1120 | |
13 | 1350 |
ps: updated the first post of this thread.
Re: experience of units / heroes
units still gave a little bit too much xp...
new:
before:
in vers 2.77e:
new:
footy(s) | 67 | |
archer(s) | 67 | |
knight(s) | 160 | |
archer(b) | 30 | |
knight(b) | 93 | |
sorceress(b) | 46 | |
motar(b) | 46 | |
gryphon(b) | 354 |
before:
footy(s) | 96 | |
archer(s) | 96 | |
knight(s) | 165 | |
archer(b) | 30 | |
knight(b) | 69 | |
sorceress(b) | 30 | |
motar(b) | 30 | |
gryphon(b) | 363 |
in vers 2.77e:
footy(s) | 63 | |
archer(s) | 63 | |
knight(s) | 153 | |
archer(b) | 63 | |
knight(b) | 153 | |
sorceress(b) | 43 | |
motar(b) | 118 | |
gryphon(b) | 43 |
Re: experience of units / heroes
units give slighty more exp (+6)
new:
before:
new:
footy(s) | 73 | |
archer(s) | 73 | |
knight(s) | 166 | |
archer(b) | 36 | |
knight(b) | 99 | |
sorceress(b) | 52 | |
motar(b) | 52 | |
gryphon(b) | 360 |
before:
footy(s) | 67 | |
archer(s) | 67 | |
knight(s) | 160 | |
archer(b) | 30 | |
knight(b) | 93 | |
sorceress(b) | 46 | |
motar(b) | 46 | |
gryphon(b) | 354 |
Re: experience of units / heroes
updated list (3.04f):
units:
im not sure if this works also for the "creeps" in hna:
im not sure if this only works on proper creeps like neutral enemies you`ll normaly find in a ladder game..
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updated (3.04f):
heroes:
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 12 + 200 = exp
lvl11: 810 x 1 + 11 x 12 + 200 = 1142
lvl12: 1142 x 1 + 12 x 12 + 200 = 1486
lvl13: 1486 x 1 + 13 x 12 + 200 = 1842
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
how it was once:
heroes:
formula:
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 5 + 80 = exp
example with...
lvl11: 700 x 1 + 11 x 5 + 80 = 835
lvl12: 900 x 1 + 12 x 5 + 80 = 975
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
units:
footy(s) | 79 | |
archer(s) | 79 | |
knight(s) | 175 | |
archer(b) | 40 | |
knight(b) | 106 | |
sorceress(b) | 57 | |
motar(b) | 57 | |
gryphon(b) | 373 |
im not sure if this works also for the "creeps" in hna:
this is not the data of hna. in hna its 180, 170, 160, 150 ....Getting experience from killing Creeps
Hero XP Gained - Creep reduction table: 80, 70, 60, 50, 0
If the unit you killed was a Creep, you won't get the full experience from it.
Seems normal, what kind of experience do you expect a level 42 Hero to get from killing a Gnoll by looking at it?
Creep experience depends on the level of the Creep.
And uses the "normal" table and values from above.
After that, the reduction table is applied.
And means:
A level 1 Creep gives 25 experience (as per above).
From those 25, a level 1 Hero will get 80%.
If your Hero is level 2, he'll get 70% of 25.
If your Hero is level 3, he'll get 60% of 25.
If...
im not sure if this only works on proper creeps like neutral enemies you`ll normaly find in a ladder game..
-------------------------------------------------------------------
updated (3.04f):
heroes:
1 | 100 | |
2 | 120 | |
3 | 160 | |
4 | 220 | |
5 | 290 | |
6 | 370 | |
7 | 480 | |
8 | 580 | |
9 | 690 | |
10 | 810 | |
11 | 1142 | |
12 | 1486 | |
13 | 1842 | |
14 | 2210 | |
15 | 2590 | |
16 | 2982 | |
17 | 3386 |
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 12 + 200 = exp
lvl11: 810 x 1 + 11 x 12 + 200 = 1142
lvl12: 1142 x 1 + 12 x 12 + 200 = 1486
lvl13: 1486 x 1 + 13 x 12 + 200 = 1842
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
how it was once:
heroes:
1 | 100 | |
2 | 120 | |
3 | 150 | |
4 | 190 | |
5 | 250 | |
6 | 320 | |
7 | 400 | |
8 | 490 | |
9 | 590 | |
10 | 700 | |
11 | 835 | |
12 | 975 | |
13 | 1120 | |
14 | 1270 | |
15 | 1425 | |
16 | 1585 | |
17 | 1750 |
formula:
(previous value) x 1 + (level) x 5 + 80 = exp
example with...
lvl11: 700 x 1 + 11 x 5 + 80 = 835
lvl12: 900 x 1 + 12 x 5 + 80 = 975
(lvl1-lvl10 are fixed, the forumula is used for lvl11 and the rest lvls...)
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