Axemaster

picked him 2times in the last days, but still didnt managed to lvl him above lvl20....got a d/c and the other game ended because of leavers
but what i saw is that he does a bit too high crits with his ultimate, think it could be also reduced to 1.7x or 1.8x times (atm its 2x), also had no problems to creep with him but only because the enemies didnt focused me (and allways used the phoenix strike and roots on bush`s beastmaster^^)

1.8 or 1.9 but no 1.7 imo. And about phoenix - if axe is pro when fl use his ulti axe can turn on antymagic when phoenix fly to him. Then phoenix doesn't deal any dmg or stun what imo is very irritating ;d

CaK_Funreal wrote:1.8 or 1.9 but no 1.7 imo. And about phoenix - if axe is pro when fl use his ulti axe can turn on antymagic when phoenix fly to him. Then phoenix doesn't deal any dmg or stun what imo is very irritating ;d

u dotn have to be pro to do that.

So thats why i post here my opinion how to change him because he isnt ended but maybe Sawier you are right so can i suggest to wirte him down on random list ??

And one thing more can someone tell me the items which you give him at the beginning ?

I think, he is a very good hero, he need only some life, and agi, on 200
But unforcionatly i can t catch him, in -random
I can be pro, with him

he is not included into random system because of balance.

I know it, but i don t like this

lol wtf?!
this hero is the worst hero!
no chance vs ranged heroes at all with extremly low hp ... and if u buy mass hp u have no dmg and even panda has more agi than you!

Ace Ventura wrote:lol wtf?!
this hero is the worst hero!
no chance vs ranged heroes at all with extremly low hp ... and if u buy mass hp u have no dmg and even panda has more agi than you!

well, lategame hero.
with ulti, evasion and antimagic quite good
(and the worst nightmare of batman)

Ace Ventura wrote:lol wtf?!
this hero is the worst hero!
no chance vs ranged heroes at all with extremly low hp ... and if u buy mass hp u have no dmg and even panda has more agi than you!

if its mainly the low hp, one could start balancing him with a bit more hp from start. 50-100 mb. reduce the percentage of of evasion on hig lvl instead, or lower the duration of am shield.
has there been any fixing on axemaster lately?

Personally I would scrape this hero. And bring two demon hunters, the current one switch over to the horde and the ladder DH for the alliance for better balance. You could replace the immolation with anti-magic, that would be fun but it would make him to OP. Evasion + anti magic, rapes everything.

i just had a game with a 200+ agi-axemaster against me in lategame. its simply imba with manashield. not a little, but ridiculously overpowered^^ more overpowered than any other hero becomes in lategame.
-steel

Maybe it should be like that with critical strike in axemaster metamorphosis :

lvl 1 - 17% to do 1.1 times normal damage.
lvl 2 - 21% to do 1.3 times normal damage.
lvl 3 - 25% to do 1.5 times normal damage.
lvl 4 - 29% to do 1.7 times normal damage.
lvl 5 - 33% to do 1.9 times normal damage.
lvl 6 - 37% to do 2 times normal damage.

Steel.DX wrote:i just had a game with a 200+ agi-axemaster against me in lategame. its simply imba with manashield. not a little, but ridiculously overpowered^^ more overpowered than any other hero becomes in lategame.
-steel

yes, hes unstoppable...every time you would be able to kill him with a spell he uses his antimagic shield and runs away...

so what about just making an exact copy of the demonhunter??

alrdy found a model:

this is a blood elf.......... a human skin


axe master is imba very very late game (but 200 agi isnt easy to have)
u are always focus, u have nothing to creep (waver and bm steal everything) , ice and poison own u easily.....
for me, he is nt rly imba , cuz 200 agi is rly late, so u can kill him lot of time before

but nvm

this skin isnt good (too much human) imo , and make exactly same skills isnt rly fun imo too

but ftm i dont have better idea so why not

then i would say take the original for human side and the other one for horde like smbdy said be4...but same heroes on both sides sucks...

i think kubi, bm, batman and admiral are already 4 doubled heroes, try to avoid more! otherwise just double any hero, then its balanced for some point of view

its correct that its not easy to get 200 agi.... i was just shocked by this (was maybe 230 or so)

CoolRasta wrote:this is a blood elf.......... a human skin


axe master is imba very very late game (but 200 agi isnt easy to have)
u are always focus, u have nothing to creep (waver and bm steal everything) , ice and poison own u easily.....
for me, he is nt rly imba , cuz 200 agi is rly late, so u can kill him lot of time before

but nvm

this skin isnt good (too much human) imo , and make exactly same skills isnt rly fun imo too

but ftm i dont have better idea so why not

first it looks similiar to the bloodlord


"ice and poison own u easily" - not realy...we had no chance to stop you, rasta, last night and we had ice and poison

antimagic shield is totaly overpowered, the only solution in my opinion is to give him immolation instead of antimagic shield and reducing his critical strike in ultimate to 1.5x damage instead of 2x damage ...

Steel.DX wrote:i think kubi, bm, batman and admiral are already 4 doubled heroes, try to avoid more! otherwise just double any hero, then its balanced for some point of view

thats correct, but 2 of those 4 heroes are orginaly horde ones and it would be only fair to double an alliance hero for the horde

@skill
i cant creep well, 2 sec of focus and half of my life was down, so i always stayed back....thats why i escaped.....
and creeping is rly hard with this hero (more than ilidan)

@skin
bood lord have dark mask ( like the Death it self)
contrary to the skin u showed who look more to the blooodmage

maybe gonna import the skin to the map and can show some ingame screenshots, mostly the heroes look a bit different on those made up screenshots then in the game

Blood elves are kinda hordeish. :p

Agreed^

But really nice skins.

thats how he would look in game:

changed portraits-icons:


+green immolation (before was red)

im also not sure if this portrait-icon wouldnt be better for the ulti:

red is better ^^ it looks like kind of berserk or somethink like that and image is great to! he will be smaller than that big Illidan with wings ^^