Axemaster

Rate the Axemaster

nice hero, but in lategame tooooo strong.
difficult to play at beginning.
same llike warden: u get focused ...
but after lvl 20 enemies get kicked their ass.

ulti is very nice, but as i said too strong.
(lvl 26 killed unit in -fight after maybe 10-15 sec... )

i rate him +++

first he have most hp and best stats at start if u compere to all heroes
mana burn with "0" sec cd
free am shild
evasion +ulti+ sword= are u joking???

tips for creep
-5 orb, clawes,gloves,ring,bots,tp= 6 items
turn on am shild creep fast, dont focus heroes(cuz they focus u back )

then imba:
at level 16+ replace ring with heal potion, -5 orb with cold , turn on ulti +am shild and kill all heroes what u see
at level 25 fight and singin' "nemoze mi nitko nista jaci sam od sudbine, mogu samo da mi puse oni sto me nevoleeeeeeee"
very nice song
and this is bad eng translation : noone can do nothing to me im stronger then fate,they who dont love me can only blow me

any suggestions how to fix him?

I never played with him a whole game, but everytime I see someone playing him its only super noobs >_>

That dies all the time and are useless >_<

he can get pretty imba maybe the cleave should change with a chance 2 cleave
the leviathan in dota got this skill...

SilentchiLL wrote:he can get pretty imba maybe the cleave should change with a chance 2 cleave
the leviathan in dota got this skill...

he has no cleave

mb we could put that in again
(btw u made many smileys in the last couple days did u noticed it?)

i think that hero has not to be fixed.
like bm or all agi heroes difficult to play at beginning and in lategame imba shit

shild is very nice, escaped a few times after 3 heroes focused me.

Is it intented that his starting stats are lower then those of the deamonhunter?

ettercap wrote:Is it intented that his starting stats are lower then those of the deamonhunter?

u sure?

actually they should be the same...

The Axemasters stats are a bit lower all three i think... (version r)
and check his mana burn range i think it is shorter than that of the dh

ettercap wrote:The Axemasters stats are a bit lower all three i think... (version r)
and check his mana burn range i think it is shorter than that of the dh

actually the opposite is the case....

axemaster:
1.65 agi/lvl
dh:
1.60 agi/lvl

rest is same:
2.3 str/lvl
1.6 int/lvl

and the axemaster has 4more dmg
eg:
both have 20agi:
dh > 22 - 40dmg
axemaster > 22 - 44dmg

both heroes have the same attack-speed (at start) and use the same manaburn-ability


axemaster has weaker starting-stats (i fix this) and dh is better creeper with his ultimate (= more gold = better stats) ....

I played 160 games on bot 2 . And never get him in random, also I dont saw others ppl who get him in random. I think random dont work on axemaster - horde &
archdruid - ally

why ?

Sawier wrote:I played 160 games on bot 2 . And never get him in random, also I dont saw others ppl who get him in random. I think random dont work on axemaster - horde &
archdruid - ally

why ?

both are not in the random-list because they arent finished....

imo the archdruid is vs heroes kinda strong with his ferie fire (armor decreasing) + beeing ranged, but on the oither hand its not so easy to kill units with him
im also not that happy with his ultimate...its maybe the only ultimate which isnt good untill you are lvl25 or higher
(maybe i have enough time at the weekend to test once again if he cant be melee and turn into ranged)

about axemaster: its realy hard to play him, hes very weak in the beginning and i heard he very good in the lategame (when i played him we allways ended the games before i got lvl25 or higher with him...). idk what to change with him that he creeps a bit better.....maybe MK`s clap instead of evasion/magic-shield? (if instead of magic-shield, then i would make him magic-immune when he uses ulti)

First of all i want to say helo

Here i have some suggestions about changes to Axemaster. I played a few games on bots (and not only) and saw people who pick Axemaster and they had realy hard game with this hero. People said Here (on Forum) that Axemater in lategame is imba but i dont think so. I saw Axemaster at lvl 30 and he was still dying. So here are some my suggestions how to change Axemaster if it possible of course

I was thinking a bit how to change this hero so what about this :

Skills :

Mana Burn - is ok for me

Anytmagic Shield - i think you can remove that skill and e.g. give him : Bash; Alchemick Rage (something similar - maybe something what will give him dmg but not much); TC aura; Comand aura.

Evasion - i think better is that skill which Rexxar has or that "Fat Panda" it means Evasion and critical dmg

Metamorphosis - ofcourse if you change that Evasion to Evasion and critical dmg Metamorphosis on lvl 6 will give you : + 600 hp, Armor +10, + 40 dmg and no more criticals and he wont get antymagic shield like MK

And others changes :
I think you can do less Agi increasing which will be equal to DH
If you write him on Random list he will get Medalion of Courage so beginning of game will be easier

This is only my sugestions and I want you to say what's wrong and what other skills we can give him. I realy like this hero so i would like to play with him but now it's a bit hard

Thx for time spent on reading this post
All suggestions are welcome

one of the stronger heroes
agility hero, manaburn is sick as you all know
evasion + sword make him almost unstoppable
magic immunity is just great, guess we dont need to discuss that, only if you play vs lightning orb you gotta be careful
avatar is nice too, double crits are uber

you can't creep with him effectively, not even ulti helps that much like it does for dh
also he has shield instead of immolation, which is no creeping spell either
but if you dotnt die all the time, which should be possible with his spells, the agility does the rest

As i can remember, i think i saw only one game, in which Axemaster was doing very well, and as i played against him, we had some problems with killing him, except this one time, i had no chance to meet someone else who could do much during the game, and mostly after a while, they were leaving

Nevertheless, Orc.Slayer, I'm sure you know what you're talking about, and Axemaster can be great in good hands

axe just rocks with sword(also before this)....ulti is a damn nice herokiller
hard to play in earlygame, but possible to survive that WITH creeping -> balanced in my eyes(ok lategame bit op, but if u dont focus him in early its ur fault)

WykurwRozpaczy wrote:
Anytmagic Shield - i think you can remove that skill and e.g. give him : Bash; Alchemick Rage (something similar - maybe something what will give him dmg but not much); TC aura; Comand aura.
All suggestions are welcome

sure ?

What u said? Balanced? ;dd It's the most sickwickedopcrazyawesome hero in game, I picked him from time to time just only to see how imba could I be ;d Maxed evasion, about 5 lv antymagic, maxed ulti, 25 lv = even tanks like mk, batman can't fight with him longer than about 10 sec. Most op hero in game but don't touch him please, he is also my fav hero but like he is now

Never got him cause i always random ...
Would be nice, if u add him to randomsystem ... mb?! (or is he randomable and i just never got him?)

no gollum, you can't random him yet
for one simple reason: not finished/balanced

Ahh ok

ya for me he's ok , wykurw i think u dont saw him good cause often only noobs picked him , they dont know how to play , sux creeping and dying make hero sux, better players usually type random so they cant get axemaster BUT i think he's a good hero in good hands and dont need to change him.