Lich

its not the same..

frost orb is an ORB effect but frost armor is a spell(positive spell, cuz it supports ur ally) -> avatar=spell immune, but not vs orb effects

i should 2 changes^^

- up the slow of frost armor (sorry but for me it's just useless, no slow or a little)

- but above all, remove the sacrifice of one unit, just doing like dk cuz it's a easy deny and i dont see the utility (and sense cuz it's removed for dk but not for lich )

it's my opinion

Scylla wrote:i should 2 changes^^

- up the slow of frost armor (sorry but for me it's just useless, no slow or a little)

- but above all, remove the sacrifice of one unit, just doing like dk cuz it's a easy deny and i dont see the utility (and sense cuz it's removed for dk but not for lich )

it's my opinion

Depends at the level of the Frost Armor. If you would increase the slow I think it would be unbalanced. About the Sacrifice of Lich, I see no problem with how it is atm. If the Lich gets mana without sacrificing a unit, it wouldn't solve anything would it?

frost armour : at lvl 10, in late game, i dont see its effect but it's maybe cuz maiev attacked me with 200 agi and didn't slow enough^^

and i would like the lich gets mana but without sacrificing an unit like dk

Scylla wrote:frost armour : at lvl 10, in late game, i dont see its effect but it's maybe cuz maiev attacked me with 200 agi and didn't slow enough^^

and i would like the lich gets mana but without sacrificing an unit like dk

Well, the Frost armor slows enough. Once the warden chases you with 200 agility it's hard to escape, even with Frost Armor at level 10. Also don't forget the Shadow Strike of Warden slows you too. The slow of the Frost Armor works good enough from my point of view. The only thing you could do in that situation, is to try to imagine where the warden will blink. Then try to move away from that area.

Well, the most Lich players play pretty aggressive at the start. Once a Lich chases a target and goes behind the creep-line and reaches the towers, let's say he needs one more Nova to kill his target. But the problem is he is out of mana. So he will need to Sacrifice a unit first, in order to have the mana to use Nova on his target. He would have no choice then to go back and Sacrifice a unit, because I think the Lich wouldn't risk his life. But if you change his spell he would have mana for ever. That would be really suck. Of course on the other side, in the late game there are plenty of creeps so it wouldn't make a lot difference. But I can say for certain that at the start it would suck.

Complexity wrote:But if you change his spell he have mana for ever.

no, not necessarily just like the same spell of dk but mana and no life.

I would like this change cuz it's a big loss of experience imo.

Scylla wrote:

Complexity wrote:But if you change his spell he have mana for ever.

no, not necessarily just like the same spell of dk but mana and no life.

I would like this change cuz it's a big loss of experience imo.

Hmm just let it be like suffer said it would be imba..
Well what does dk have? Useless hero in cw if u ask me. If u make lich stronger with it as he is already in cws then gg xd

it would be possible to up the aura of dk ? cuz the regen of life isn't interesting in comparation aura of tc or dl (and ok arthas has the same but he has a wave and an ulti cheat^^)

Love the hero , great at early game and late game, one of my favorite int heros. +OO

I can't say i don't agree with this.

Overall lich is powerfull :
- Decent creeper on early game.
- Dark Ritual quite strong to keep her full mana and deny strongest creep on early game as well.
- Can kill or help to kill with Nova.
- On mid and late game his ulti is just phenomenal with some stuns.
- Can help mates quite well if alliance have decent amount of mellee (with frost armor).

That's why it's my favorite horde hero. But bunch of you already knew this.

PanStyle wrote:I can't say i don't agree with this.

- Dark Ritual quite strong to keep HERfull mana and deny strongest creep on early game as well.

Lich is a male.

Complexity wrote:

PanStyle wrote:I can't say i don't agree with this.

- Dark Ritual quite strong to keep HERfull mana and deny strongest creep on early game as well.

Lich is a male.

Lich is ma gurl bra. Back off.

It's a she because she's gay fo me das rite

PanStyle wrote:

It's a she because she's gay fo me das rite

XDDDD doggy still alive? how are u? xd

I'm gud ma boi. U should come in ma house tonight smoke da ganja and shit

Dream combo for lich would be with pitlord, pitlord uses ulti for dispell and stun, then lich finish him.

Love this hero, specially early game, nova is so deadly against heroes and often get's good early kills. Also don't have to worry about mana almost at all sacrifice op! Don't nerf