Re: Suggestions

**Noctumonium** 2011-08-24, 09:40

In X they don't care so much about creeps kills, it's true dope hna is really more "pro" oriented. Anyway some their ideas are nice Smile

About flamestrike... y maybe is better fix it a bit ^^ I'm just sad that I didn't get bloodmage with the new spell Sad

**Cain** 2011-08-24, 09:42

Hehe.. yes it's kinda fun to use flamestrike on banished people, it's sick damage.

**Steel.DX** 2011-08-24, 17:40

Hehe.. yes it's kinda fun to use flamestrike on banished people, it's sick damage.

can you quantify this? what/ how much is the difference if/not banished?

**motion_man** 2011-08-25, 11:50

i always thought banish increase dmg by 50%, but its 66%
http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/bloodmage.shtml

**Steel.DX** 2011-08-25, 20:21

thx for info AND source Smile

**borogal** 2011-08-25, 21:41

motion_man wrote:i always thought banish increase dmg by 50%, but its 66%
http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/bloodmage.shtml

RIght and wrong :p its for classic only
in hna the rate is diffent and ofc changes with lvl

**Steel.DX** 2011-08-26, 04:16

in hna the rate is diffent and ofc changes with lvl

then what is it on what lvl?^^

**motion_man** 2011-08-26, 08:17

borogal wrote:
motion_man wrote:i always thought banish increase dmg by 50%, but its 66%
http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/bloodmage.shtml

RIght and wrong :p its for classic only
in hna the rate is diffent and ofc changes with lvl

slow rate is different, dmg bonus is the same cos u cant change it, like slow effect from frost nova (atleast not in the editor)

**borogal** 2011-08-26, 08:44

mhm according to what cain said nova slow increase if i remember right plus, try it ur self, to coorect me, but take pala and blm
holy plus banish, no doubt it increase at least on hero.

**Cain** 2011-08-26, 10:25

The slow percentage doesn't change, only how long the effect lasts.

**motion_man** 2011-08-26, 13:09

borogal wrote:mhm according to what cain said nova slow increase if i remember right plus, try it ur self, to coorect me, but take pala and blm
holy plus banish, no doubt it increase at least on hero.

y, it increases effect by 66%, no matter what lvl banish is. open editor and go to abilities/buffs tab and search for banish. ull see that theres no input to change % for banish, only slow effect and duration. same goes for "slowed" effect that frost nova makes

**borogal** 2011-08-26, 13:22

motion_man wrote:
borogal wrote:mhm according to what cain said nova slow increase if i remember right plus, try it ur self, to coorect me, but take pala and blm
holy plus banish, no doubt it increase at least on hero.
y, it increases effect by 66%, no matter what lvl banish is. open editor and go to abilities/buffs tab and search for banish. ull see that theres no input to change % for banish, only slow effect and duration. same goes for "slowed" effect that frost nova makes

Mhm i trust you, but really seems like math are lying Smile

**Steel.DX** 2011-08-28, 20:49

thanks all for the nice info Smile

**yugan** 2011-09-12, 15:36

pls panda's ulti is too imba upgrade his cooldown on higher levels !

Bogus 2011-09-12, 19:16

It's good idea for more cooldown for panda Smile

**Steel.DX** 2011-09-13, 05:31

more cooldown, i agree. since years by now..... Smile

**Azid** 2011-10-04, 09:49

Yes pandas ulti cooldown is annoying , if he escape it feel liek 10 sec he got the ulti again and can escape again o.O mb do a higher cd desperate

-Azid-

**Cain** 2011-10-04, 09:52

I think i increased it by quite a bit last version.

**Steel.DX** 2011-10-04, 20:58

i once mentioned, limit the range of nagas tornado. it should not be impossible to counter this spell.
other suggestion: make unit and tower upgrades available, like armor, damage, extra mana & spells for shamies & sorcs. this needs some consideration in terms of pricing

very provocative: implement a portal in the two lanes that connect the middle of the upper lane to the middle of the lower lane. maybe limit the "capacity" of the gate as it erodes the wardens monopol on swiching lanes quickly.

ability to build towers?

...to be continued...

J.P.P.P.P.P 2011-10-05, 06:07

Steel.DX wrote:

ability to build towers?

...to be continued...

The map used to have the ability to build towers in the very very early versions.... but it was a fail, they were imba at the start and useless in the end and they could be used to do all sorts of crap like blocking lanes, it was just a bit of a disaster tbh. This is something best left out of the map.

My worry about upgrades would be that it would make the map even longer.... and its pretty long already.

**motion_man** 2011-10-05, 14:28

as suggested, increase speed of all heroes, remove boots and now my idea: remove staff of tp, add it as a free starting skill to all heros (i think this might cancel imba pala's tp with divine shield) and mb add dust of appearance to shop?

J.P.P.P.P.P 2011-10-05, 20:10

motion_man wrote:as suggested, increase speed of all heroes, remove boots and now my idea: remove staff of tp, add it as a free starting skill to all heros (i think this might cancel imba pala's tp with divine shield) and mb add dust of appearance to shop?

I dont think it would remove the pala tp bug but this could probably be fixed by either adding in a simple trigger to remove the ability from the paladin while he tps or by adding a longer cast time to the ability (although im not sure how long it would need to be). Its an annoying bug but its not impossible to beat with a quick shackle or silence.

Bogus 2011-10-05, 20:54

Pala hero is okay, no changes.. Surprised

**motion_man** 2011-10-05, 21:41

guys its not a suggestion to fix paladin -.- otherwise id put it in "rate paladin" topic, pala tp is just a side thing of the whole suggestion thats why i put it in () brackets -.-
(and i think it would be cancelled, cos tp would be a channelling spell and casting divine shield would interrupt it)

J.P.P.P.P.P 2011-10-06, 00:18

motion_man wrote:guys its not a suggestion to fix paladin -.- otherwise id put it in "rate paladin" topic, pala tp is just a side thing of the whole suggestion thats why i put it in () brackets -.-
(and i think it would be cancelled, cos tp would be a channelling spell and casting divine shield would interrupt it)

Yea i agree with your other points and i guess if you based the tp spell from the archmages then yea it might cancel the bug. Maybe a new ulti for AM would be required then? I mean, just having a reduced cd wudn't be much of an advantage if everyone had it as a spell.

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